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There might be some changes once the official patch notes are posted, but I'm editing the merit rewards based on [http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=shibboleth&Number=13022423&page=0&fpart=1 this thread] [[User:Bort13|Bort13]] 16:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 
There might be some changes once the official patch notes are posted, but I'm editing the merit rewards based on [http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=shibboleth&Number=13022423&page=0&fpart=1 this thread] [[User:Bort13|Bort13]] 16:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Mercedes Sheldon arc ==
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I copied the Mercedes Sheldon arc to the 20-24 section, with notes about flashback/non flashback.  There was a discussion in a chat channel I was on and some people were annoyed about not being able to get the arc at level, because they were using this page to pick the arcs they were running.  {{User:StarGeek/sig}} 23:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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== Idea ==
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Wouldn't it be wise to put the text from the summary box on the individual TF pages?
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== Differentiation with other arc lists ==
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The list on this page is to be in the order shown by the flashback system, and includes Archvillain names. Only list the contact given out by flashback system.
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Another list (probably Hero Story Arcs) will have the souvenir name and a list of the primary enemies. It will be ordered according to the levels needed to receive the arc from a contact, and show all the contacts you can get the arc from. It'll be used by people hunting certain enemies, people deciding which contacts to select and how to get arcs before getting too high a level. It does not need number of merits (it would just get outdated).
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Forum Discussion [http://paragonforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1204] [[User:Larryw24|Larryw24]] 10:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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I think we should consolidate this page and Hero Story Arcs, as I suspect that people decide which arcs to run as much as by the amount of merits they reward as by enemies. --[[User:K26dp|K26dp]] 19:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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== Sort by Merit Amount ==
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[[User:Deertayorkay|Deertayorkay]] made an edit that was visually terrible (adding zeroes to the front of merit award amounts in order to sort them properly), but a generally good idea. I have implemented it in another way, which is far more pleasing to the eye (currently by HTML). I actually like the idea very much.
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When I've got time, I'll update the {{tl|FlashbackMerits}} template to add the hidden data that allows proper sorting. Probably by a second variable in the template, e.g. ''{{tl|FlashbackMerits|122|122}}'', ''{{tl|FlashbackMerits|60|060}}'', ''{{tl|FlashbackMerits|9|009}}''. And then I'll update all uses of {{tl|FlashbackMerits}} to use the new format. I've got to run ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 22:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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: I updated the template to handle this automatically, without the need for supplying a second value. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 00:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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::Shoulda known you'd get to it before I could. :) Sekoia to the rescue (again)! ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 00:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Citadel Task Force ==
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Was there a reason why the number of door missions was removed?  Could that have been some sort of editing problem?  I believe it has nine door missions, but didn't know if someone was doing some more editing before fixing the problem myself.  [[User:Fiery Transfer|Fiery Transfer]] 00:55, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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:The mission total seems to have been accidentally removed during [[User:Syrusb|Syrusb]]'s update to the page to use the newer formatting style. I've returned the count to the page. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 01:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Positron ==
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I'm not very good with tables, but we need to update Positron's TF here.  Looks like Part I awards 11 merits and Part II awards 15 merits.  The flashback version offers 40 merits, so probably need to put that on there as well. - [[User:Snorii|Snorii]] 13:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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:Modifying the info in the tables now.  From looking at the [[Old Positron Task Force/Flashback|Old Positron Flashback]], it appears that this is listed as "The New Recruits" rather than "The Rule of Three".  Need to check that, but I've used the first title in the flashback table for the time being.  --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 13:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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:Also, I couldn't remember if Doc Buzzsaw is just a normal Meatdoctor or an EB/AV.  If she's just a normal Meatdoctor, she should be taken out of the entry. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 14:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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::"The New Recruits" is the correct name. I ran it to get the fiddly-bit changes from being able to run it with one person (it refers now to the character/team leader instead of a team of multiple players, various wording differences, but otherwise mostly the same).
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::Doc Buzzsaw is an EB/AV. So are the three from Posi2. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 16:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
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== [B] Designation ==
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I think this identifier is being used incorrectly on a lot of new arcs.  According to the key it only designates those unique missions that are pulled from a contact for the specific purpose of making it easier to get a given badge.  As such, they aren't normal arcs and have altered rewards (as noted in the key).  Newer arcs with the [B] do award badges but '''are''' normal arcs, and do give normal rewards, AFAIK.  We need to be careful with that note and only use it where appropriate.  I would alter the page myself, but don't know if it is better to change the note or the usage...  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 21:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
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:Bumping this since Blondeshell's wonderful edits keep making it harder to use Recent changes effectively.  If only she were a Bot!  Ha!  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}}
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: Well, the original goal was to denote the missions that did not award badges for challenges, even if you had the challenges enabled. Even though it was labeling them [B] for badges, it wasn't drawing attention to them because they awarded badges. So I would say that [B] should be repurposed for "This awards a badge" and something else (perhaps [NC] for "no challenge badge"?) should be used to mark the ones that do not award badges for challenges. There is certainly value in having each noted in the tables. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 01:20, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:20, 25 August 2012

Noticed an alternate contact for Tsoo Shenanigans while trying to unlock Kong.

"The Midnight Squad" awards 3 merits. --Sleepykitty 04:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


The Heros Hero arc also has many preatorians which are minimum level 48. The ones you face through Tina are obviously not udner this restrcition (IIRC they are minimum 42).Catwhoorg 14:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

There might be some changes once the official patch notes are posted, but I'm editing the merit rewards based on this thread Bort13 16:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Mercedes Sheldon arc

I copied the Mercedes Sheldon arc to the 20-24 section, with notes about flashback/non flashback. There was a discussion in a chat channel I was on and some people were annoyed about not being able to get the arc at level, because they were using this page to pick the arcs they were running. -- StarGeekTalk page 23:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Idea

Wouldn't it be wise to put the text from the summary box on the individual TF pages?

Differentiation with other arc lists

The list on this page is to be in the order shown by the flashback system, and includes Archvillain names. Only list the contact given out by flashback system.

Another list (probably Hero Story Arcs) will have the souvenir name and a list of the primary enemies. It will be ordered according to the levels needed to receive the arc from a contact, and show all the contacts you can get the arc from. It'll be used by people hunting certain enemies, people deciding which contacts to select and how to get arcs before getting too high a level. It does not need number of merits (it would just get outdated).

Forum Discussion [1] Larryw24 10:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I think we should consolidate this page and Hero Story Arcs, as I suspect that people decide which arcs to run as much as by the amount of merits they reward as by enemies. --K26dp 19:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sort by Merit Amount

Deertayorkay made an edit that was visually terrible (adding zeroes to the front of merit award amounts in order to sort them properly), but a generally good idea. I have implemented it in another way, which is far more pleasing to the eye (currently by HTML). I actually like the idea very much.

When I've got time, I'll update the {{FlashbackMerits}} template to add the hidden data that allows proper sorting. Probably by a second variable in the template, e.g. {{FlashbackMerits|122|122}}, {{FlashbackMerits|60|060}}, {{FlashbackMerits|9|009}}. And then I'll update all uses of {{FlashbackMerits}} to use the new format. I've got to run ~ AGGE talk/cons 22:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I updated the template to handle this automatically, without the need for supplying a second value. -- Sekoia 00:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Shoulda known you'd get to it before I could. :) Sekoia to the rescue (again)! ~ AGGE talk/cons 00:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Citadel Task Force

Was there a reason why the number of door missions was removed? Could that have been some sort of editing problem? I believe it has nine door missions, but didn't know if someone was doing some more editing before fixing the problem myself. Fiery Transfer 00:55, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

The mission total seems to have been accidentally removed during Syrusb's update to the page to use the newer formatting style. I've returned the count to the page. ~ AGGE talk/cons 01:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Positron

I'm not very good with tables, but we need to update Positron's TF here. Looks like Part I awards 11 merits and Part II awards 15 merits. The flashback version offers 40 merits, so probably need to put that on there as well. - Snorii 13:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Modifying the info in the tables now. From looking at the Old Positron Flashback, it appears that this is listed as "The New Recruits" rather than "The Rule of Three". Need to check that, but I've used the first title in the flashback table for the time being. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 13:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, I couldn't remember if Doc Buzzsaw is just a normal Meatdoctor or an EB/AV. If she's just a normal Meatdoctor, she should be taken out of the entry. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 14:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
"The New Recruits" is the correct name. I ran it to get the fiddly-bit changes from being able to run it with one person (it refers now to the character/team leader instead of a team of multiple players, various wording differences, but otherwise mostly the same).
Doc Buzzsaw is an EB/AV. So are the three from Posi2. ~ AGGE talk/cons 16:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

[B] Designation

I think this identifier is being used incorrectly on a lot of new arcs. According to the key it only designates those unique missions that are pulled from a contact for the specific purpose of making it easier to get a given badge. As such, they aren't normal arcs and have altered rewards (as noted in the key). Newer arcs with the [B] do award badges but are normal arcs, and do give normal rewards, AFAIK. We need to be careful with that note and only use it where appropriate. I would alter the page myself, but don't know if it is better to change the note or the usage... — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 21:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Bumping this since Blondeshell's wonderful edits keep making it harder to use Recent changes effectively. If only she were a Bot! Ha! — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont
Well, the original goal was to denote the missions that did not award badges for challenges, even if you had the challenges enabled. Even though it was labeling them [B] for badges, it wasn't drawing attention to them because they awarded badges. So I would say that [B] should be repurposed for "This awards a badge" and something else (perhaps [NC] for "no challenge badge"?) should be used to mark the ones that do not award badges for challenges. There is certainly value in having each noted in the tables. -- Sekoia 01:20, 25 August 2012 (UTC)